Charming. Can't stand the idea of other people having fun, can they? Don't they realize that most boxers and cachers WANT to protect the environment???


≥Kit Kat≤

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http://protectsensitiveecosystems.blogspot.com/

This person has made it his life's work to remove letterboxes and geocaches.

HikerGuyEd

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ButterflyPR@comcast.net wrote:
> Charming. Can't stand the idea of other people having fun, can they? Don't they realize that most boxers and cachers WANT to protect the environment???
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> ≥Kit Kat≤
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What do you mean, I like stomping on the ferns.

Really, the environment manages to do enough damage to itself, there is
not much we do that can do the damage it already does.

--
Nathan Brown

AKA Cyclonic
Penncoasters.com

The Insensitivity rolls on...

McCarthy was RIGHT!

Behind every great man is a great woman... rolling her eyes.

I think there may be a whole lot of women behind his guy rolling their
eyes... and personally, I think this kind of craziness is what gives "Tree
Huggers" their reputation. Not that I have anything against treehuggers,
personally. I'm just sayin'...

zorket

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Nathan Brown wrote:

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> What do you mean, I like stomping on the ferns.
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> Really, the environment manages to do enough damage to itself, there is
> not much we do that can do the damage it already does.
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> Nathan Brown
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> AKA Cyclonic
> Penncoasters.com
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> The Insensitivity rolls on...
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> McCarthy was RIGHT!
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> Behind every great man is a great woman... rolling her eyes.
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I can agree but disagree with this site, for the simple fact that he does have a point, some folks who letterbox and geocache are not observant of their surroundings. I have met a few in my travels that do litter and don't care about the environment, they just care about finding the box. I have seen much damage around letterboxes, I personally have tried fixing what damage is possible, but anything helps right? Now because one person is out to get all these boxes, we shouldn't get mad or even upset. There are tons of us who no matter how many of our boxes are stolen or damaged we will continue to plant and search for those that are already taken. I stand strong in my ways of planting and finding. Its a great and healthy way to get outdoors and GET MOVING! If I do ever meet this guy all I would do is stop and smile and ask him how his find was. I would not flip out on him, or even say anything bad to him. This would bother them more then badmouthing them.

So if they consider our boxes trash, let them. They are treasures to us, and I know we hate having our stuff stolen, but if we keep dwelling on it then they are getting what they want.

Keep your heads up and enjoy the outdoors, whether or not you find the box you're looking for. Hope this helps some annoyed people, happy hunting!

I can agree but disagree with this site, for the simple fact that he does have a point, some folks who letterbox and geocache are not observant of their surroundings.What I found interesting is none of the photos shows destruction of the area. There's a photo of a trail that he/she calls destruction but it looks like a legit trail complete with log stairs. Most of the photos show beautiful healthy intact mushrooms. Lone R




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>I can agree but disagree with this site, for the simple fact that he
does have a point,
>some folks who letterbox and geocache are not
observant of their surroundings.

What I found interesting is none of the
photos shows destruction of the area. There's a photo of a trail that
he/she calls destruction but it looks like a legit trail complete with
log stairs. Most of the photos show beautiful healthy intact
mushrooms.Lone R














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> http://protectsensitiveecosystems.blogspot.com/
> This person has made it his life's work to remove letterboxes and geocaches.


So his solution to the so-called problem is to remove the boxes, meaning that people will tromp
around even more, looking for something that isn't there. Brilliant.

dave

That is the first thing that went through my mind too! If they really
cared about the environment you would think they would move boxes to
better locations and email new clues in order to teach people how to be
plant more responsibly. They obviously are just an angry person who
wants a reaction, not to save the environment. At least with
Letterboxing you don't usually have to dig around too much. I once
watched a geocacher tear apart a 10' square of woods looking for a
cache. She never found it. :-(



HowD girls :-)



________________________________

From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dabhid07
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:49 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Letterboxers & Geocachers Beware!!!





> http://protectsensitiveecosystems.blogspot.com/

> This person has made it his life's work to remove letterboxes and
geocaches.

So his solution to the so-called problem is to remove the boxes, meaning
that people will tromp
around even more, looking for something that isn't there. Brilliant.

dave





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In Geocaching we call these people cache maggots.

The best response to cache maggots is to ignore them, so posting topics about them is counterproductive. Ignore them, replace the containers when they are stolen, and they go away eventually. When they dont, arrest them for stealing, like what happened to Paul Repak:

http://romesentinel.com/news?newsid=20100217-141107

(Whether the charges stick or not is moot. Hes been publicly embarrassed which is punishment enough)

Many of the caches stolen were placed with permission by the land managers, so this person has no argument worth sharing. They really dont have a point since they arent taking the high road with their arguments. We all know sugar is bad for you but we dont go around taking candy from babies.

I figure that the cache maggot (or box maggot) is likely monitoring this list to see what kind of reactions they get from stealing caches and letterboxes. They arent really worth your time and energy, so I would suggest not feeding them.

Jeremy




From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dvorak, Lisa
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:14 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Letterboxers & Geocachers Beware!!!


That is the first thing that went through my mind too! If they really
cared about the environment you would think they would move boxes to
better locations and email new clues in order to teach people how to be
plant more responsibly. They obviously are just an angry person who
wants a reaction, not to save the environment. At least with
Letterboxing you don't usually have to dig around too much. I once
watched a geocacher tear apart a 10' square of woods looking for a
cache. She never found it. :-(

HowD girls :-)

________________________________

From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dabhid07
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:49 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Letterboxers & Geocachers Beware!!!

> http://protectsensitiveecosystems.blogspot.com/

> This person has made it his life's work to remove letterboxes and
geocaches.

So his solution to the so-called problem is to remove the boxes, meaning
that people will tromp
around even more, looking for something that isn't there. Brilliant.

dave

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Two thoughts come to mind:

A - Here in the desert we would call what this person is doing theft. I would doubt that many would stand for it. Ammo cans are not cheap around here!

B - I noted the beautiful scenery in that anonymous bloggers pictures. How did they get such beautiful photos without "tramping all over the sensitive ecosystem"?

Going back to my box now.....

Daniel T